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	<title>Comments on: Web standards in South Africa &#8211; Top 10 SA sites validated</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Marshall</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbagley.com/2006/04/04/web-standards-in-south-africa-top-10-sa-sites-validated/comment-page-1/#comment-113361</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My interest and chief concern with web standards is that sites comply with accessibility standards.  In South Africa these standards are not stipulated by law, but in certain European and other countries they are.

We&#039;re always preaching about diversity and equality in this country, but we continuously fail to take into account the rights of disabled people.

Have you ever seen how a blind person browses the web with a screen reader - it&#039;s incredibly humbling and it&#039;s saddening to know that these people can&#039;t browse South African websites with ease because we fail to adhere to accessibility standards.

And it&#039;s not just disabled people that benefit from accessible websites.  There are people with minor visibility issues who cannot see your text, because the contrast ratio between the fonts and the background is too low and does not comply.  There are deaf people who don&#039;t know what your video is about, because you failed to provide a text transcript.

W3C standards also help towards this because XHTML and CSS standards, when adhered to, help people who can&#039;t use a mouse to navigate your site using just a keyboard.

Hopefully I can get through to the people browsing your page and they can take an interest in accessibility as well.  It&#039;s gotta start somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My interest and chief concern with web standards is that sites comply with accessibility standards.  In South Africa these standards are not stipulated by law, but in certain European and other countries they are.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re always preaching about diversity and equality in this country, but we continuously fail to take into account the rights of disabled people.</p>
<p>Have you ever seen how a blind person browses the web with a screen reader &#8211; it&#8217;s incredibly humbling and it&#8217;s saddening to know that these people can&#8217;t browse South African websites with ease because we fail to adhere to accessibility standards.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not just disabled people that benefit from accessible websites.  There are people with minor visibility issues who cannot see your text, because the contrast ratio between the fonts and the background is too low and does not comply.  There are deaf people who don&#8217;t know what your video is about, because you failed to provide a text transcript.</p>
<p>W3C standards also help towards this because XHTML and CSS standards, when adhered to, help people who can&#8217;t use a mouse to navigate your site using just a keyboard.</p>
<p>Hopefully I can get through to the people browsing your page and they can take an interest in accessibility as well.  It&#8217;s gotta start somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Antony Carthy</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbagley.com/2006/04/04/web-standards-in-south-africa-top-10-sa-sites-validated/comment-page-1/#comment-47483</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony Carthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool article, but you haven&#039;t W3C&#039;d this site either...

I don&#039;t like Internet businesses who don&#039;t create compliant websites. I sometimes wish browsers were not so forgiving. 

To be fair though, I often have to take short cuts in my development. I use the target attribute, and I use a web based WYSWYG editor in my CMS that doesn&#039;t generate compliant XHTML code.

About 35% of my dynamic sites and almost 100% of my static sites are totally compliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool article, but you haven&#8217;t W3C&#8217;d this site either&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like Internet businesses who don&#8217;t create compliant websites. I sometimes wish browsers were not so forgiving. </p>
<p>To be fair though, I often have to take short cuts in my development. I use the target attribute, and I use a web based WYSWYG editor in my CMS that doesn&#8217;t generate compliant XHTML code.</p>
<p>About 35% of my dynamic sites and almost 100% of my static sites are totally compliant.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbagley.com/2006/04/04/web-standards-in-south-africa-top-10-sa-sites-validated/comment-page-1/#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew I smelt a rat! ;-) kidding...

I was impressed by the new design which was launched a couple of months ago (I think) and as I said in the post, being one of the top 10 visited sites in SA, you almost have a responsibility towards developing a site that takes things like standards and semantic markup into account. So kudo&#039;s to you folk for standing up and being counted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew I smelt a rat! ;-) kidding&#8230;</p>
<p>I was impressed by the new design which was launched a couple of months ago (I think) and as I said in the post, being one of the top 10 visited sites in SA, you almost have a responsibility towards developing a site that takes things like standards and semantic markup into account. So kudo&#8217;s to you folk for standing up and being counted.</p>
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		<title>By: mariusmarius</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbagley.com/2006/04/04/web-standards-in-south-africa-top-10-sa-sites-validated/comment-page-1/#comment-2034</link>
		<dc:creator>mariusmarius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Jason, my fault for not noticing it is an old post! Yes I do represent CareerJunction. We spent a lot of time and effort getting our standards right. (Mostly only on the new sites and the home pages.) Changing the old code would cost too much money. We have some of the best people in the industry working for us now, making sure the environments look pretty AND conforms to W3C standards. CareerJunction is slowly migrating all aspects of the environment into Opensource. While we are doing the migration we are paying a lot of attention to the standards aspect. So keep checking up on us, you may be pleasantly surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Jason, my fault for not noticing it is an old post! Yes I do represent CareerJunction. We spent a lot of time and effort getting our standards right. (Mostly only on the new sites and the home pages.) Changing the old code would cost too much money. We have some of the best people in the industry working for us now, making sure the environments look pretty AND conforms to W3C standards. CareerJunction is slowly migrating all aspects of the environment into Opensource. While we are doing the migration we are paying a lot of attention to the standards aspect. So keep checking up on us, you may be pleasantly surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbagley.com/2006/04/04/web-standards-in-south-africa-top-10-sa-sites-validated/comment-page-1/#comment-2033</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marius, before I throw my toys out of my cot and throw them at you, please check the date that this post was created. April 4th 2006. ;-)

(Ok, I see that on the left I do not show the year, so you are forgiven. Just check the dates of the comments.) No hard feelings?

Do you represent any of the sites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marius, before I throw my toys out of my cot and throw them at you, please check the date that this post was created. April 4th 2006. ;-)</p>
<p>(Ok, I see that on the left I do not show the year, so you are forgiven. Just check the dates of the comments.) No hard feelings?</p>
<p>Do you represent any of the sites?</p>
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		<title>By: marius</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbagley.com/2006/04/04/web-standards-in-south-africa-top-10-sa-sites-validated/comment-page-1/#comment-2032</link>
		<dc:creator>marius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

So you are telling me you are throwing mud at these sites with stats that are older than one year? I would have al least expected you to quote recent stats for that privilege.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>So you are telling me you are throwing mud at these sites with stats that are older than one year? I would have al least expected you to quote recent stats for that privilege.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbagley.com/2006/04/04/web-standards-in-south-africa-top-10-sa-sites-validated/comment-page-1/#comment-2030</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marius, I checked these sites in April 2006, so since then Career Junction has had a redesign, and secondly, the site currently cannot be checked as the character encoding for the site is incorrect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marius, I checked these sites in April 2006, so since then Career Junction has had a redesign, and secondly, the site currently cannot be checked as the character encoding for the site is incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: Marius</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbagley.com/2006/04/04/web-standards-in-south-africa-top-10-sa-sites-validated/comment-page-1/#comment-2029</link>
		<dc:creator>Marius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did you get 50 errors on CareerJunction? I only found one? Could you tell me what you classified as errors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did you get 50 errors on CareerJunction? I only found one? Could you tell me what you classified as errors?</p>
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		<title>By: adrian kirsten</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbagley.com/2006/04/04/web-standards-in-south-africa-top-10-sa-sites-validated/comment-page-1/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian kirsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey bro,

I used to work for a internet company, and I can tell you first hand that standards is NOT an issue for them. They simply do not give a shit.  In fact I almost got FIRED because I was insisting on implementing standards ( &quot;We told you we would look into your proposal, and the department head does not agree with you and you still went on and spent company time implementing this&quot; )

It&#039;s sad... oh well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey bro,</p>
<p>I used to work for a internet company, and I can tell you first hand that standards is NOT an issue for them. They simply do not give a shit.  In fact I almost got FIRED because I was insisting on implementing standards ( &#8220;We told you we would look into your proposal, and the department head does not agree with you and you still went on and spent company time implementing this&#8221; )</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad&#8230; oh well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lebogang nkoane</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbagley.com/2006/04/04/web-standards-in-south-africa-top-10-sa-sites-validated/comment-page-1/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>lebogang nkoane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arrrrggg.

I was gonna argue, but me is too lazy.  One word.

context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arrrrggg.</p>
<p>I was gonna argue, but me is too lazy.  One word.</p>
<p>context.</p>
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